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Real talk about something that's killing me all offseason. Two WRs keep getting mentioned in same breath by ppl who haven't looked situationally at either, and it's inflating one into a position he hasn't earned (yet) while short selling the other. Zay Flowers. Baltimore, post-Lamar restructure, post-Likely move to NY, post-Deonte Harty gone quiet. The target tree in that offense just lost two branches and Flowers is there with 117 targets already logged in a run-heavy scheme. Now you say the offense is going to open up. Fine. What exactly changes for him? He's already running 27% of his routes out of the slot, he's already Lamar's first read on third and ___, and his air yards per target (9.2 last season) already demonstrate trust. We already know hes that guy from a baseline perspective. We're just arguing whether the ceiling raises, and it has nowhere to go but up unless they draft another receiver in rounds 1 or 2. Meanwhile... Ladd McConkey. The Chargers are figuring out what they are post-Harbaugh year one. Herbert is back, the scheme opens things up for underneath receivers, and McConkey ran a 53% route participation rate last year which is borderline WR2-ceiling in a pass-first system. But the Chargers drafted Quentin Johnston two years ago and he's still (theoretically) in the room eating routes. McConkey's ADP has him going as a mid-WR2 right now. That's the number I'm arguing about. One of these players has a cleaner path to 130+ targets in a better offense. The other has upside but a questionable role in a team still trying to find its sexuality (lmao). They cannot both be valued the same in the draft. Please put the numbers in front of me. I'm super down to being wrong here -- but I need logic not vibes. submitted by /u/Ok_Ratio_3585 [link] [comments]