Player mentions

Jaleel McLaughlin
RB · DEN · #general

...RB can take on that work, even if it’s a smaller/faster back like a Jaleel McLaughlin or whatever. They’ll just call different types of run plays. But the...

RJ Harvey
RB · DEN · #general

RJ Harvey is an enigma For the first time I can remember, I wrote a response to...

DJ Thomas-Jones
TE · #breakoutcandidate

.... The comp for Coleman from that Sproles Saints era would be Pierre Thomas, which Javonte was sort of an extension of years later in Denver, as the d...

Latavius Murray
RB · #breakoutcandidate

...He split with Ingram in 2017 and 2018, then when Ingram left he split with Latavius Murray in 2019 and 2020, and in the massive 2020, he had the huge receiving role...

Theo Riddick
RB · #general

...e James White (and Shane Vereen and Kevin Faulk before) and the Lions with Theo Riddick, and we just don’t see this type of player anymore with a bunch of r...

Adrian Peterson
RB · #breakoutcandidate

...kie year it seemed like he still wanted the three roles, and he brought in Adrian Peterson to be the “rush only” guy, but Peterson had a real issue with...

James White
RB · #general

...specialist RBs in a lot of offenses including the Patriots with guys like James White (and Shane Vereen and Kevin Faulk before) and the Lions with Theo Riddick,...

Darren Sproles
RB · #breakoutcandidate

...apped playing time, there would still be paths, and that’s where the Darren Sproles comps come in. And I probably could have articulated that comp bett...

Drew Brees
QB · #general

...it came for a ton of reasons, including them playing in a dome and having Drew Brees and the era they were in where they were in shotgun a lot more than the Br...

Alvin Kamara
RB · NO · #general

...;do-everything” back, or more aptly, he’s probably more of the Alvin Kamara, and then Kamara-Ingram years are the other way Payton has done things whe...

Taysom Hill
TE · #breakoutcandidate

...ceiving role but only 187 rushes and Murray at 30 years old had 146, while Taysom Hill had 87 rushes as part of that backfield. Then the next year, Murray was go...

Chase McLaughlin
K · TB · #general

...take on that work, even if it’s a smaller/faster back like a Jaleel McLaughlin or whatever. They’ll just call different types of run plays. But the...

J.K. Dobbins
RB · DEN · #startrecommendation

...catching/HVT - lower snap “weapon” guy) is fairly secure with Dobbins as the between the tackles starter (w/ TRAP concerns as you said) but with...

Isaiah Likely
TE · NYG · #breakoutcandidate

...same number of routes and the same volume of targets. It’s far more likely Harvey is not Sproles, obviously, in which case he might have some of thes...

Shane Vereen
RB · #general

...n a lot of offenses including the Patriots with guys like James White (and Shane Vereen and Kevin Faulk before) and the Lions with Theo Riddick, and we just don&#...

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For the first time I can remember, I wrote a response to a comment so long I couldn’t post it in the comments section, though I think somewhere along the way I’d committed to copying it over into its own post. The below discussion builds off yesterday’s Broncos writeup, and you should read about the RBs over there first to get a foundation of my first thoughts to understand the question and where I went with it. Darin asked this question, and then my response (in its comment-section rough form) is just pasted below: The general consensus on Harvey (w/ the higher ADP) has been that his role (as an ascending pass catching/HVT - lower snap “weapon” guy) is fairly secure with Dobbins as the between the tackles starter (w/ TRAP concerns as you said) but with Coleman as a more direct back-up to the Dobbins role. In other words, when Dobbins goes down Harveys role either stays intact and/or increases along side Coleman (I think Dobbins going down for periods is a near certainty so really curious about your take here). Are you seeing this a lot different than consensus? You seem to imply that Coleman is a much bigger threat than the consensus is seeing (especially late season when it matters) to Harveys overall role (pass game, HVT, etc) and essentially threatens Harveys upside case significantly? You sort of discussed Coleman in broader terms so just curious how you’re seeing the 2026 impact, Harvey feels like a fade at cost after reading this, but maybe I misunderstood? I didn’t see Coleman as a threat to Harveys role even a little so his range of outcomes has shifted after reading this….his contingent value may be capped a bit more than the market is seeing? I think you mostly read what I’m trying to say, but Harvey specifically is I’d say in the top five most difficult to price players for me. As for the specifics about Coleman’s role, I do think he impacts Harvey, yes. Harvey’s poor pass blocking stuff didn’t keep him from consolidating snaps pretty solidly late last year after Dobbins missed time, but I think that’s pretty specifically why they got Coleman. I think Payton sees RBs as very different in types, and will rotate when he has good options of different types, and the note they basically didn’t have someone to do the Javonte stuff last year is the point because it splits up the backfield into different portions and does in my mind limit Harvey’s ability to consolidate to the same degree. But there’s also the acknowledgement that Coleman is a rookie so there’s risk he’s just not good! Harvey had a great profile that didn’t manifest perfectly. So that’s why I spent so many words talking about what Coleman is, in broader terms, because I do think that’s central to the conversation. If he’s a do-everything back that actually does have kind of a high floor right away, that impacts how he can handle these “first rule, do no wrong” snaps on obvious pass downs and that stuff. Because Harvey is like this down-to-down highly volatile RB where they like to use his explosiveness and upside, but there are situations like pass blocking and some of the success-rate running stuff where he basically doesn’t meet the minimum threshold coaches are looking for. I think the Coleman draft pick was way more about how he pairs with Harvey than backing up Dobbins; Dobbins’ work is mostly rushing, and I think basically any RB can take on that work, even if it’s a smaller/faster back like a Jaleel McLaughlin or whatever. They’ll just call different types o…